• Tricia889
    136
    Agreed Better days ahead . :party: I find it disturbing that so many surgeries are cancelled and life saving treatments etc . It would not be a good time for anyone to get sick . Another reason why we need to make this better .

    Interesting about the tigers getting it from their trainer . And having symptoms !!! Maybe pets can get it from us . I remember reading the swine flu was like that .

    If a pet starts showing symptoms or is diagnosed with corona , it could mean the owner is carrying the virus ---- and may not even know it.
  • Nat M
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    Thought it was interesting as well that the Tiger at the zoo got Corona.
    Then i started thinking about all my pets.
  • KellyD
    296
    Hope your kitty is doing well. Thankfully the vet office was open. Stay safe and healthy yourself.
  • Tricia889
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    Here is a new study saying domestic cats can also be infected with corona , and ferrets , if anyone has a pet ferret . The WHO is investigating it says . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8203441/The-investigate-transmission-coronavirus-humans-pets.html

    Hi Kelly Thanks :) My trait score on paid viewpoint is up to 8800 and i have 6.90 so i am making progress .I took your advice and don't wait for their Email survey invites, which works better.

    My cat took a turn for the worse , so i had to take him back to the vet last night . He was just diagnosed with diabetes and pancreatitis and is in the kitty hospital right now on IV . Hopefully i can pick him up today . Nervous about starting him on insulin . Because of this virus they can't show me how to do an insulin injection , they referred me to U tube videos . I hope i can do it properly. Going to need lots of surveys , the vet bills have been outrageous , but he's worth it. Stay safe as well :)
  • KellyD
    296
    Oh my, I hope all goes well for you and your kitty! Yes, they are worth it. I have 6! I don't know anything about needles (very afraid of them), but I wish you the best on giving him his medicine. I am glad your trait score went up higher. Just get to that 10000 mark and you will get higher paying surveys and more of them too. Keep checking in every day. Please let me know how it goes giving your cat the medicine. Good luck.
  • Bob Dack
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    April 2, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – There are a growing number of people, such as Senator Tom Cotton and myself, who believe that the China coronavirus may have been under study at a Wuhan biolab, that it somehow escaped, and that this is how Wuhan became the epicenter of the pandemic that has changed all of our lives.

    In fact, there is a paper, authored by two Chinese scientists, which traces exactly how they think this happened.

    Their paper, titled “The Possible Origins of the 2019-nCoV coronavirus,” begins by confirming that the China virus came from an animal known as the Intermediate Horseshoe Bat. Interestingly, the paper, published in February, has since disappeared from the international scholarly database Research Gate, but is still available through the Wayback Machine and is now available on LifeSiteNews here.
    On this point about the virus coming from bats, the scientific community is now virtually united. Genetic analysis has revealed that the China coronavirus is from the same family of coronaviruses carried by the Horseshoe Bat.

    But how did the Horseshoe Bats and their load of coronaviruses get to Wuhan, and how did one of these viruses manage to cross the species barrier and infect humans? On these questions, there is wide disagreement.

    The Communist Chinese authorities initially put out the story that the bats were sold in the Wuhan wet market as food, and that a worker there accidentally became infected when butchering one of the little beasts for a customer. This story has been endlessly repeated by compliant American media outlets.
    Sorry, China, but your own scientists, Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao, who work for the state-run South China University of Technology, make quick work of this story. First, they point out that there are no known colonies of this species of bat within 900 kilometers—that’s 560 miles—of Wuhan. Second, they diligently interviewed 59 people with connections to Wuhan and each and every one confirmed that there were no Horseshoe Bats being sold there.

    So how did the bats, and the viruses carried by the bats, get to Wuhan? They were carried there by humans, of course. Bill Gertz has documented how China researchers were extracting and studying deadly bat coronaviruses in two Wuhan biolabs.

    Gertz writes that “Several Chinese state media outlets in recent months touted the virus research and lionized in particular a key researcher in Wuhan, Tian Junhua, as a leader in bat virus work. … A video posted online in December and funded by the Chinese government shows Mr. Tian inside caves in Hubei province taking samples from captured bats and storing them in vials.”

    The seven-minute video, reports Gertz, “boasts that China has ‘taken the lead’ in global virus research and uncovered over 2,000 viruses in the past 12 years, the time since the outbreak of the bat-origin virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).” China’s frenzied collection efforts, led by Mr. Tian among others, have nearly doubled the number of known viruses.

    Aside from collecting samples of bat urine and feces from caves, Mr. Tian also collects the Horseshoe Bats themselves. According to a May 2017 report by the Wuhan Evening News cited by Gertz, Mr. Tian has gathered thousands of bats for research work on bat viruses since 2012.

    Mr. Tian works at the Wuhan Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the national center for China’s bat virus research, and one of two Wuhan biolabs identified by the authors of “The Possible Origins” paper as the source of the leak.

    “We screened the area around the seafood market and identified two laboratories conducting research on bat coronavirus,” the Chinese researchers explained. “Within 280 meters from the market, there was the Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention (WHCDC). WHCDC hosted animals in laboratories for research purposes, one of which was specialized in pathogens collection and identification.”

    Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao note that one WHCDC study used 155 Horseshoe Bats captured from Hubei province and 450 bats captured from Zhejiang province.

    They also noted that about 7 miles away was the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which was also conducting research on the same bats.

    They concluded that the first case of a human having contracted the virus was probably a biolab worker from the WHCDC or WIV who accidentally exposed himself to blood or urine from a bat and infected himself. They also suggested that infected tissue samples from research animals, or the animals themselves, may have wound up in the wet market.
    “The killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan,” they write.

    They conclude that “safety” may need to be improved in “high risk, biohazardous laboratories.”

    “Regulations may be taken to relocate these laboratories far away from city center and other densely populated places,” they state.

    The paper was quickly censored by the Chinese authorities and disappeared online. But curiously—and just as the authors had recommended--new regulations governing the “handling of dangerous viruses like the novel coronavirus” were in fact quickly put in place. Deepening the suspicion of a cover-up, Chinese officials not only refused to provide samples of the China coronavirus strains to U.S. researchers, it ordered private labs in China to destroy their samples and gene sequencing data. Were they afraid that researchers might find out that the pandemic was in fact caused by a virus that had been isolated at one of China’s research labs? It certainly looks that way.

    The Mainstream Media seems intent upon protecting China from the accusation that the China Coronavirus escaped from a lab via an accidentally infected worker or the selling of an infected lab animal. Those of us who criticize the Chinese authorities for unleashing a pandemic upon the world are called “xenophobic” and “racist.” They seem so intent upon making Trump look bad that they are bending over backward to make China look good.
  • Bob Dack
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    But there is simply no question that China has for years been doing research on many dangerous coronaviruses at its Wuhan biolabs. Not only have the institutions in question openly bragged about their virus collection efforts, but the researchers involved have left a clear paper trail.

    Consider a 2013 article co-authored by a WIV researcher that appeared in the scientific journal, Nature. The article was titled, “Isolation and characterization of a bat SARS-like coronavirus that uses the ACE2 receptor.” What the Chinese researcher and his colleagues concluded was that “Chinese horseshoe bats are natural reservoirs of SARS-CoV, and that intermediate hosts may not be necessary for direct human infection by some bat SARS-like coronaviruses.”

    Here we find the Wuhan biolab involved in collecting a range of SARS-like coronaviruses from horseshoe bats and proving that, like the SARS virus itself, some of these other naturally occurring coronaviruses could directly infect human beings. And in exactly the same way that the Wuhan Virus does.

    A coronavirus-carrying bat living in a remote cave poses little threat to humanity. Even if it carries a coronavirus strain capable of directly infecting human beings it probably won’t, simply because it does not come in contact with them.

    But bring that same infected bat into a biolab and start performing experiments on it, and you have dramatically increased the risk that the coronavirus it carries could infect a lab worker. And, if that biolab is located in the heart of a city of some 12 million people, as the Wuhan labs are, urban crowding will ensure that it quickly spreads to thousands of people.

    Then add to this already volatile mix Communist Party leaders determined to deny culpability. For weeks on end, while five million people (5,000,000!) left the epicenter of the epidemic for all parts of China and the world, Beijing pretended the situation was under control. Even today, they continue to cover up the mounting evidence that the China Coronavirus leaked from one of their biolabs.

    If Xi Jinping wants to prove that China is not responsible for the global pandemic now wreaking havoc all over the world, he should order the release of the research records of his Wuhan biolabs.

    Of course, the likelihood of that actually happening is near zero, which in itself would be tantamount to an admission of guilt.
  • Tricia889
    136
    Wow You have 6 cats !!! It's surprisingly easy giving a cat an insulin needle for diabetes , and he doesn't even feel it . Checking his glucose ( you have to prick their ears ) might be tougher , haven' t done that one yet .

    He is a different cat . He's so happy now and strutting around with attitude again . Back to his old self . Hope you have a great long weekend :)
  • Tricia889
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    Interesting . Time will tell if the corona virus came from a lab accident , the live market, or somewhere else. It seems that this Wuhan Chinese lab experimenting with bats" may" have been US government funded from a 3 million plus grant. . The lab has been defended by the US , and they don't believe the virus was derived from the lab, Some staff were even trained in Texas, and were said to be professional and capable.
    .
    https://expressinformer.com/u-s-government-gave-3-7million-grant-to-wuhan-lab-that-experimented-on-coronavirus-source-bats/

    Not unusual for countries to collaborate , the study of bats it so important to the world, seeing they harbor hundreds of viruses .
  • Tricia889
    136
    They did check bat virus samples at the Wuhan lab and none matched the genome of the corona virus

    On the otherhand ......

    " A Chinese doctor at the Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital highlighted research that showed at least 13 of the first 41 people diagnosed with the virus had no contact with the market."
    Dr Cao Bin said: “It seems clear that the seafood market is not the only origin of the virus.”


    A mystery for now . I just read they may never come up with a vaccine …….Hope they come up with a treatment at least . Also last time I went out the streets were packed , ( Monkland Village , Montreal ) I couldn't believe it . So much for social distancing
  • KellyD
    296
    I am so glad your cat is doing well! I am glad it isn't difficult for you (or him) to give the medication. I kniw if I tried that on one or two of my cats, they would have went bonkers! I have twin orange cats, boy and girl and I got tired of looking at their private parts to see who was who, so I tried to put a collar on the male cat. Well, he was so mad and scared that he ran around the house screaming and rolling on the floor to get the collar off. I finally took it off when he started foaming at the mouth! So, I could just imagine if I had to do what you are doing to him! Keep me posted please how well he is doing. Thanks.
  • karl
    74
    they also think it may be a type of lizard that is illegal to sell in the markets, so if it was being sold the merchants would have quickly got rid of the animals when this started. also, china has lost 21 million cell phone users in the last two months, now I doubt all those are people that died, but with the evidence of crematoriams going 24/7 and stacks of cremation urns outside these facilities, you know they are lying about their numbers
  • PARMINDAR SINGH
    1
    We need to stay safe at home to prevent from this deadly virus.
  • godseeconomy
    2.3k
    My 30 year old friend with a 6 year old son is seriously ill with Coronavirus. She was put on a ventilator. Her husband was discharged from hospital on day and NEXT morning she was admitted to High Dependency Unit due to difficulty in breathing. Last evening when we heard from our daily updates, she was deteriorating. We quickly convened an hour long prayer for her and her whole family via zoom. Oh Lord, hear our petitions. Breath Your life into her life! This couple has no relatives in UK. All are overseas.
  • Carol hughes
    2.4k
    prayers sent to your friend
  • godseeconomy
    2.3k
    She and her husband need all the incense prayers to ascend to the throne of grace. Jesus is our high priest, touched with our infirmities. His ear is not so heavy that He does not hear our prayers. Complete healing Lord Jesus, we fervently beseech You.
  • Bobert
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    Doubled in 12 days ... Resources getting fewer ..respirators and such ...
    The longer it goes on ... The higher your percentage of not pulling through ...
    27th of the month ... 4.3 million infected .... 280k perished ... At this rate ...
    Higher or lower ... We'll know if we're winning or losing this battle .... k0yfdzvydaz4lty6.png
    ^^^^Today^^^^
  • Carol hughes
    2.4k

    Sure is some scary times
  • Bobert
    338
    These are just numbers ... I don't think they are telling us half of what the actually Heck is going on ..... These could be fractions of true figures ... Found this pic on my research travels ........ 0v7te6uuxv4v0jx7.png
    Enough of everything ,.,. For everyone .... They complain the planet needs to grow 50 percent more food .... Then tell us 40 percent of food is wasted or damaged or sell by dated .... World needs to get a grip .... Governments have proved world wide they have money by the amounts they are now throwing around ... Money means nothing when it's spent on whats needed .... Cash in banks v bodies in coffins ... No brainer ....
    Still ..... 30 people own/earn half the worlds wealth compared to all working folk.....
    Meh .... Now they're realising the "bottom of the rung" workforce is/are the backbone of the world turning ...
  • Tricia889
    136
    Speaking of food ,we ordered a full grocery order online for the first time ever yesterday . I ordered a bunch of bananas thinking 4 or 5 , and they sent me 21 bananas . Don't know what I am going to do with 21 bananas . My 16.00 worth of batteries were missing and they charged me 11.00 for one green pepper . They don't answer their phone or Emails grrrrrr , guess we shouldn't sweat the small stuff . :naughty:

    Really sorry about your friend . I hope she fully recovers . <3

    If China was more forthcoming about where this virus came from ,etc we would get out of this mess a lot sooner . I feel most governments are lying about the numbers affected .

    Hi Kelly . Yes, will keep you posted . So far he's a changed kitty . He won't wear a collar either .Your cat wouldn't know he was getting a shot . The needle is so sharp I am a bit nervous the needle will slip or he will move and i will mistakenly give myself an insulin shot. Wonder what a person does then !!! He is an orange cat too. Hope you are doing well :)
  • godseeconomy
    2.3k
    Pray much for my friend. She is on ECMO. This treatment is only for extremely severe cases and the specialist hospital has a capacity for only 30 patients. So they have to be so specially selected in order to get this treatment! Her life is on the edge, not exaggerating. A group of us pray for her and her husband and child for an hour every day via zoom. :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:
  • KellyD
    296
    Oh my! An orange cat too! Aren't they the best. I have boy and girl orange twins. The boy is so funny. He will sit on my lap, look up at me and his tongue is half way out of his mouth for a while! None of my other cats do that. Let me know again soin how all is going with the shots. Be careful not to poke yourself! So happy for you he is doing well. Thanks for updating me.
  • KellyD
    296
    Oh my Kingalfed is at it again! You go boy!
  • Tricia889
    136
    I will :pray: That's really awful . It's a scary virus .It's funny how some have no symptoms and others have it so bad . Really hope things turn out well for her and her family.

    . There is nothing sweeter than an orange cat :heart: :heart: , will keep you updated
  • godseeconomy
    2.3k
    Her husband tells us he shakes with fear every time his mobile rings fearing the worst from the hospital. The Dr rings every day to give him updates on his wife. He is trying to be brave in front of his son. The son says 'Mummy is sleeping' That was how he saw her being brought by the ambulance. First his father, then a few days later his mum. God is merciful that his dad was discharged home the day before his mum was taken into hospital. At least one parent is with him all the time and in his own home. O Lord, watch over this family.:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:
  • Nat M
    1.7k
    Do not know how hand sanitiser is going in your supermarkets at the moment. Whether it has stocked up or not. Our shelves are still bare.
    But i wont be needing hand sanitiser for years now. Picking up 5l (AUD $150) tomorrow but am splitting it between family. 80% ethanol
    A local Gin factory has started making it.
  • Bobert
    338
    Sounds good hand sanitizer gin...on the rocks
  • Nat M
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    Won't be having this on the rocks..... :lol: There is another Gin Factory in Western Australia doing the same thing, part owned by Shane Warne ( Warney). His is at 70% ethanol.

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  • Bobert
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    It's Good as at 5L it's cost effective ... If manufactured into 200ml squirty bottles ..more expense more cost .. Shared out amongst frens' family.. Job done ...
  • Nat M
    1.7k

    Supermarket today........they got some in, had to take photo......50ml @ $12.( Look how big the price sign is ) There was a supermarket lady doing something at the shelf , said to her "bit expensive".Came over had a look ,said it is but we did have some cheaper ones. Thought to myself no one is going to buy this at that price.

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  • Tricia889
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    Hope your friend is showing improvement .
  • godseeconomy
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    Thanks. Not out of the woods yet. Dr rang her husband with report. She cried with her husband on the phone. She prayed for her husband over the phone. The day before, it was a nurse who gave up to date. She said she was praying for her patients and their families. What super caring health care staff, caring for their patients' body, mind and spirit!
  • godseeconomy
    2.3k
    From a nurse on the whatsapp group after receiving a delivery my daughter sent to them via Amazon "I am a nurse at Royal Papworth and this kindness is very very much appreciated by all the staff. Thank you :blush: " Wonder how she found out who was the donor?
  • Tricia889
    136
    Great to hear that she is still hanging in there :pray: Very nice of your daughter . :flower: Those health care workers are something else aren't they , putting their own lives on the line . We just lost a doctor and a nurse here in Montreal area . Hope they find a vaccine or treatment soon . :)
  • cjsenour
    499
    The stay at home and closing of businesses has been a hardship on everyone, especially those now out of work with no income. However, I feel it has been necessary to stop the spread. There has been much talk about slowly opening things up, but I hope they don't do it too soon. It would be awful to start a second round of this.
  • Bob Dack
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  • Bobert
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    This isn't about money though, the cost is life ... She made her 90 second response.. Closing on the damage caused his first response 10$ trillion ... Not to mention quarter million deaths ...apparantley ....thats probably double ... But yeah ... Less deaths in Asia as they were aware ..they had mers,sars,bird flu, swine flu, corona outbreaks previous, they new how to contain it, were probably containing it before reporting it ... December/janurary millions of people on flights in and out of Asia world wide, caused this, for that, they are accountable, for not speaking out and demanding the shut down of countries, "social isolation'' knowing that the spread will be devastating ...for that, they are accountable ... Initially the rest of the world were too slow to react ...will this ever go away, be defeated, there's no vaccine for colds n flus, we know that, so stop spouting that B.S to the world...china not being honest enough passing on what they knew...also makes them accountable ..... Putting a Claus in a November agreement concerning a pandemic ... Guilty your honour ...... Of all charges ....
  • Bob Dack
    2.5k
    I just found this and thought it might be interesting for some is all?
  • Nat M
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    https://www.health.gov.au/news/chief-medical-officers-statement-on-novel-coronavirus

    This was published 19th January 2020.
    She (in that video clip) says December 15th US Trade was signed then 6 weeks later Trade Truce signed.
    Australia knew there was a virus there and the US should have known ??
  • SLowMo
    52
    Are we allowed to upload videos?..Damn i never noticed shame on me :rofl:
  • KingAIfred
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    This video is called "how to amuse, the easily ammused"g7nomhygjj71ie62.png
  • karl
    74
    meh...was just at Meijer(mass merchandiser) 6 pack of paper towels $25.99, deli meats that I usually buy for $6-8 a lb, now $10.99 lb, body wash I normally get for under $2, now $3.30 a bottle, everything has increased in price and a lot of the shelves don't even have prices marked...buyer beware!! needless to say the meat selections were almost non existant
  • Carol hughes
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    That is so wrong I was planning on going to Meijers tomorrow
  • karl
    74
    yh, good luck with that, going to try kroger(grocery store) tomorrow. but, with them talking meat shortages now, I don't expect much with that, but, hopefully I can get some of the things I didn't buy at Meijer...for a fair price...sigh
  • KingAIfred
    45
    Pet foods .. Double..tripled on line ... Ques round the block , get out there early or no breads eggs or milk .. Price hikes are a disgrace .. Apparantly major stores have increased their life time profits by 25% in only the past 3 month...
  • Nat M
    1.7k
    Our supermarkets look a bit healthier, they have eased up on the number of items we can purchase. We also had price hikes on items but the supermarkets said they never put up any prices.
    Our distanting restrictions are being eased off a bit........but Queensland state border still closed.
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